Thursday, January 11, 2007

"Ordo et Traditio" formerly "GreenMountainHardRight!" Pulls The Plug Again!


W
e're reluctant to divert from our mission, that is, as an ongoing record of the antics of the Mickey Mouse Machiavelli of Vermont, Kevin W. Blier, but the scrubbing of a recent post over at Ordo et Traditio (scroll down to December 7's post - the cache will remain for a while) caught our eye.  Since the cache will disappear eventually, we've reproduced the deletion:
"Thursday, December 07, 2006

BlierWatch Not Keeping Good Enough Tabs on "Racist Anti-Gay Fascists"

One shouldn't ignore the inactivity of the girlie-men over at BlierWatch (the homosexual watchdog group who have a obsession with CFACR/Vermont Renewal, Kevin Blier, and any other "right-wing" group or person they imagine has tea with David Duke or members of the Westboro Baptist Church).

Apparently BlierWatch has been spending too much time reading fashion magazines and condemning the Pope's attire (not to mention proclaiming the end of GreenMountainHardRight! to notice a change in the face of the Vermont Right. Could it be that that they are lax in doing their research? Is it possible that in trying to squash all of us horrible "racist anti-gay fascist haters" (Christians, conservatives, and any others who generally find homosexuality to be sinful and immoral) they forgot to keep tabs on...well, why spoil it. I shouldn't have to do their work for them...after all, they are BlierWatch..."

Source:  http://ordoettraditio.blogspot.com/2006/12/blierwatch-not-keeping-good-enough.html
We'd read a post recently over at Green Mountain Daily by Jack McCullough titled An Honest Conservative (yeah, we laughed too!).  It got us to thinking about what had occurred and how the scrubbing of poorly considered thoughts was something that we'd noticed before. McCullough's piece had in part to do with conservatives actually acknowledging error in thought and position, and having the decency to admit it.  A rare trait indeed among the extremists who call themselves "paleocons" (read more on paleoconservatives in this article from the Southern Poverty Law Center Intelligence Report), like the "scribe" at Ordo et Traditio/GreenMountainHardRight!.

Since the blogger at GreenMountainHardRight!, now Ordo et Traditio , never quite gets around to denying his racist connections, we did a little further checking.  Seems he's getting encouragement from this secessionist blog.  And naturally we found that they too link to the Council of Conservative Citizens (formerly known as the White Citizens Council), the League of the South, and Christian Exodus (read more on these well-known hate groups in these Southern Poverty Law Center Intelligence Reports here, here, here and here).  They use a service provided by this secessionist site that likewise links to various known hate groups and Christian Identity organizations.  You won't find any references to "ha(ving) tea with David Duke" in the various Intelligence Reports but there's plenty on these groups selling Duke's books and discussing his ideas.

We understand that the writer over at Ordo et Traditio has said elsewhere that he has conviction in his moral and spiritual beliefs.  Does that conviction extend to his blogging?  Apparently not so much.  We again found that he'd shed yet another skin, but not for very long before shedding the next one too.  You can find him briefly in this Google cache of his new but now gone umpteenth blog at a winger blogging site called TownHall.  Apparently stung by our revelations about various links on his old blogs to racist organizations and ideologues, he's deleted his earlier links to sites like Sailer's and vdare.com, as well as his ode to the racist Samuel Francis, eulogized by none other than David Duke who has called Francis "a true brother in the Cause."  He neglected to delete however his link to the founder of the extremely racist (yeah, redundant but fits this particular group of racial separatists) League of the South, Thomas E. Woods, Jr.  Here's another one of his announcements of the move to the TownHall blogging site from the now closed Blogger site (Google cache):
Monday, January 01, 2007
SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: ORDO ET TRADITIO TO MOVE TO TOWNHALL.COM

DEAR READER,

ORDO ET TRADITIO IS MOVING TO WWW.TOWNHALL.COM AND AS OF JANUARY 15 WILL NO LONGER UP AND RUNNING THROUGH WWW.BLOGSPOT.COM. IN ADDITION TO THIS CHANGE I WILL NOT BE TRANSFERRING ALL OF MY OLD POSTS OVER TO THE NEW SITE--ONLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN MY FAVORITES SINCE I BEGAN BLOGGING IN JULY OF 2006.

PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT THE NEW SITE AT: HTTP://OET.TOWNHALL.COM/

NOTICE THAT I HAVE SHORTENED THE WEB SITE ADDRESS FOR EASIER ACCESS.

I DO HOPE YOU ENJOY THE NEW FORMAT, THE ACCESS TO THE LATEST CONSERVATIVE NEWS AND OPINION THAT WWW.TOWNHALL.COM PROVIDES, AND ALL FUTURE POSTS I INTEND TO MAKE.

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS,

CONSERVATEUR (FORMERLY VTPALEOCON, NYPALEOCON, AND NYKIRKIAN)
posted by NYKirkian at 9:44 PM
Well, it seems that's all over now too.  Perhaps he'll be back.  Or perhaps all this crap he's churned out might eventually turn into campaign blowback for a close family member's recurring political endeavours.  Too early to say, yet.  We'll see... "after all, we are BlierWatch."

   Isn't that right, Matt?



What do fellow GOP conservatives say about The Center for American Cultural Renewal? "...(A)n organization with no Washington presence and little clout with social conservatives outside Vermont where it is based."

6 Comments:

Blogger El Cid said...

Your logic is simply flawed, how you could possibly stretch an argument to "proclaim" that the League of the Scarlet Pimpernel is comprised of racist. What a silly notion. Stick to what you know, what is true and what is provable.

Fri Jan 12, 06:50:00 AM EST  
Blogger Blier Watch said...

Hmmm, not seeing an explicit denial in any of that.

Planning to delete any of those links to the racists featured at your blog as your friend at Ordo et Traditio ended up having to do?

Did love your little song and dance here though.

Sat Jan 13, 06:09:00 PM EST  
Blogger El Cid said...

You see that is the problem - why should I have to deny something that is not true?

As for links - the world of ideas is big enough and robust enough, for those that think, to accommodate all sorts of ideas. I certainly may not agree with everything every site we link to says but everyone is there because they have at some point said something that is empirically true.

Your definition of racist is obviously just too broad.

Sun Jan 14, 05:12:00 AM EST  
Blogger Blier Watch said...

>>Your definition of racist is obviously just too broad<<

You've defined our purported "definition" using a method typical of the paleoneadocons. It's a self-serving, inept defense designed to obscure your very essence: white supremacist, misogynistic and deeply homophobic. And still no denial of what a five minute visit of your site confirms you to be - one who longs for the day when all who you feel deservedly (in your mind) superior to knew their proper place, as define by you and your "kin."

But what else should we expect from someone who gets all warm and gushy at the thought of hearing Dixie being played, eh?

Y'all come back now, hear?

Sun Jan 14, 02:30:00 PM EST  
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